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lookit me, all fangirling red's lyrics. ♥

so, this kinda doubles as the start of my outline, more for my benefit than anything else; it's slightly spoilery and hella rambly, so don't read if you don't want, but if you're following the development of this fic, you may find it interesting.



things we now know about "19th century scottish peasant AU":

- it is now irish. :P

- [livejournal.com profile] j_plash is now my official partner on this. i'm going to be doing the primary writing (though i may beg bits of scenes/lines from her), since i may want to adapt this into an actualfax novel someday. but it looks like she's going to do most of the plotting and organization because our brains appear to be about 95% on the same wavelength for this and my ideas are all over the place, whereas she seems to have clear images, like she can put into words everything i want to do. she's done *research* on slave fics, knows everything about them and how to keep them from being cliche and cringeworthy. how do i get so lucky to work with people like this?!

- brendon is... some kind of instrument repair dude, who plays (guitarish things?) on the street for cash. (or possibly some kind of piano-maker's apprentice?) not sure if he's technically homeless, but he's street-smart and plucky. jack dawson-esque. he later gets rich by developing his own piano-making business (this is apparently actually lucrative), and maybe starting a music studio of sorts. shane his business partner. jon is the 19th century equivalent of a tech at the cabaret where ryan is eventually taken (jon has no idea the performers are slaves; it's just a job for him -- ETA: or maybe he does know and he's secretly helping the slaves, like, bringing them things like food and books and goodies all the time, and working underground with one tom conrad on a plan to seize this joint and set everyone free at some point? just idealist enough to be jon :/), and eventually helps ryan and brendon escape. SHANE, ngh, gets to have a sexy spanish accent. fucking HELL yes. :D

- ryan plays the harp, or dulcimer (undecided). it's locked in the attic, it was his mother's, i think she died in childbirth (hence ryan's dad's resentment toward him). can you teach yourself the harp?

- has been concluded that they have one kiss before ryan is ~taken. ryan is taken b/c his father is going to be whisked away to debtor's prison if he doesn't pay up, so... i guess he sells ryan? or they take him? idk how it works, either way ryan's dad kills himself within days after ryan's taken.

- his dad is a blacksmith, and ryan tries to make all the armor and weapons pretty with his ~artsy designs and stuff, which pisses his dad off, obv. will expand more on this, lol.

- very clear images of when brendon buys ryan for a night. "he's pricey." brendon replies tightly, "i can manage." "of course, sir. but i must warn you, he's also a bit... feisty." b smiles smugly, all his hatred toward ryan's master wrapped up in one smirk. "i can manage that too." UNF, i love rich-powerful-no-BS-but-still-really-decent-person!businessman!bden.

- ryan possibly needs a new name. a stage/courtesan name. or a slave name he went by all these years, given him by his first master. something that brendon would still recognize though. it'd be his favorite flower, "lily." his mother's name. so when brendon asks what That Boy's name is, not 100% sure it's ryan, he'll still get it. or. something. idk. this brings us back to the tattoo question i posted on my twitter. i think it's feasible he could have one (an image of a lily, something for brendon to recognize him later when he sees him for the first time in 8 yrs and can't be sure). the lily will be a running motif throughout, though, in various forms.

- i have this other line, for after brendon finds him and ryan just can't believe brendon actually found him, and brendon whispers, "even in death, i would find you" -- SEE NEW ICON. :D icon illustrates the scene when brendon buys ryan for a night, but there are a couple hours between purchase time and the time he actually gets to see ryan, so he's sitting in his hotel room, as seen here, angsting and just trying to breathe, and reminiscing about the ryan he knew when he was 15-16. i half stole it from an episode of xena, i think she said, "even in death, i'll never leave you." whatever, i'm using it as my tagline. though it implies one of them might die in the end, and i can't do that in fic, not to you guys. i might do it if i adapt it into a novel, though.

- there are four ~stages to ryan's journey: year 1, he spends in a slave house where new captures are taught to be... this sort of slave. it's grueling and traumatizing and everything you'd think it'd be. year 2, ryan is bought by spencer's dad and he and spence start up a heartbreaking but deep friendship that actually gives ryan some hope. year 3, something Happens and spencer's dad sells him /o\ to the first guy who'll pay a decent price, who happens to be the cruelest master ryan will ever encounter. this is the year that breaks him. year 4, he's bought by the guy who runs the uber-high-class cabaret/brothel, it's a very underground sort of thing, but very well known in the right circles. he's going to be a fascinating character to create and write, because he's going to be hard to just hate outright. he's very fucked in the head, has an intense personal attachment to ryan, treats him very "well" (assuming ryan behaves), but has this delusion that he's doing these boys a favor, giving them this high-class life and protecting them from the world. it's really sick, but devastating too. i can't wait to explore his character. anyway, so for four years, he schools ryan in performance and high class hookerdom. this is the big turning point: ryan slowly shuts down and turns into this cold, jaded, haughty figure, almost viciously cold-hearted unless you're paying (and you're paying a LOT) -- a shell, almost no memory of his past, no hope, no belief in anything good left in the world. he's become brilliantly talented at what he does and well aware of it, making a 180 from broken, listless surrender to instead using his skills to his advantage, making himself valued and needed and craved and adored, even if he hates it. he uses it as a sort of power. it's heartbreaking, but kind of amazing. by the time brendon returns, ryan doesn't even believe brendon's come to save him.

- more details are in this and all the other threads she and i have in that entry. seriously, they are endless.

so. yes. \o/

if anyone has photoshop skills and cares to do something with these pics, go for it. i'm not looking for anything specific, just something i could use as a banner maybe, or just for fun. that's how i see the two of them in this fic (in both their peasant and courtesan/businessman stages, respectively). i'm also looking for a title as we speak (can't start a fic without the title; i work the entire fic around it). i generally use lyrics, or lines from poetry, so if anything inspires you, throw it my way. i'm really not as lazy as i seem; i just like my fics to be interactive, and it seems like you guys like it too. speaking of, [livejournal.com profile] maddylonglegs has already completed some artwork for the fic, and it's gorgeous. all artwork welcome, from anyone who feels inspired. there is going to be a lot of visuality in this fic, a lot of striking imagery. i can describe any scene you feel like drawing in intense detail. i have a lot of clear visuals for this. there's lots of fancy costumes, too. god, i wish i could draw/paint/anything.

i probably won't start actually writing for months, though. it'll take a lot of research and very intense planning. it's going to be very complex and intricate and rich and epic, way more so than anything i've ever tackled. i'm probably going to have to read -- shudder -- actual books from/about this era, so i can get a feel for what i'm doing. still, i'm excited.

all thoughts/questions/comments welcome. i kind of love talking about this fic.

for now, i'm going to take advantage of all my free time and go do some yoga. *yawns and stretches* i leave you all with recs.

http://miss-begonia.livejournal.com/221200.html
really, really beautiful words; she has an amazing way with language. love the style too. still, to me this is one of those AUs that feels more like original fiction than fic; i don't really see a lot of the RL boys in this, really, but nonetheless it's a gorgeous piece of writing.

http://reni-days.livejournal.com/26251.html
reni never disappoints. ever. her stuff is so fucking enjoyable and readable and fun, always such a treat. i ~sekritly want to prompt her every day and have her write me things forever. *hides under confessionrock*

http://moku-youbi.livejournal.com/24917.html
pirates. PIRATES. also the only fic i've ever read where i was totally OTPing joncer. usually they don't intrigue me at all because they just seem so easy, no room for angst/complexity, but this totally sucked me in (lol). she has a tendency to do that. "saturation" was the one gsf (well, threesome, whatever) fic that totally changed my views on polyamory forever; no going back.

speaking of moku, i've been pimping this out lately in hopes that the powers that be (i.e. you all) will bring more spyro into the world. *bden puppy eyes?* i've been craving it like mad lately. any spyro at all, any era, any genre, even non-porn, anything so long as they ain't chicks. [livejournal.com profile] j_plash is helping with the spyro revolution, one commentfic at a time. she's spoiling me so hard i'm never going to actually get around to writing any of this fic. i'll just let her randomly improvise all the most exciting parts. XD



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Date: 2009-05-03 11:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] miarae.livejournal.com
I'm so freaking excited about this fic. I'm going to love and adore it and stalk every bit of your LJ to find out more. If you ever need someone to bounce ideas off, I'm totally here, though I bet I'll mostly be fangirling.

My own Spyro fic is still sadly existence-less. Real life getting in the way x_x And not in the positive way. But I'm still thinking about it, so don't give up on me yet ;)

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Date: 2009-05-04 12:20 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lolab.livejournal.com
YAY! i'm happy. i will always be bouncing ideas for this one. i feel so lost. i know nothing about the time period or locations or anything.

bah. i understand about RL, no worries. but i am very, very excited for whenever you write it. :)

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Date: 2009-05-03 11:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] notyourshot.livejournal.com
oh wow that was fast.

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Date: 2009-05-03 11:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] notyourshot.livejournal.com
oh i see you digging the piano-maker/piano-tuner idea. i know a couple of things about this, so i might be able to help. and if i don't know, i know where to look. so if you have a question or whatever... :)

and the blacksmith idea! i'm still kinda stocked at the image of ryan curled into a ball, hammering a tiny piece of iron (i have clearly got no technical language on blacksmith...ery. -ing? whatever.) as to draw patterns on an old sword. he practices a lot too, in my mind, on pieces of metal he finds here and there. at first the lines are clumsy and awkward, not quite round enough to be curvy or even enough to be straight.

THERE WILL BE FANFICTION OF YOUR FANFICTION. this is my prophesy.

also, SHANE. i will love you endlessly, im kind of sick of the only spanish in fics is gabe saying querido and te amo all the time.

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Date: 2009-05-03 11:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] noahatthedisco.livejournal.com
EEEE! I'm so excited! getting and J working on a fic together might just... like explode me from an over quotient of awesome fic. or something. idek. I'm still excited.

"jack dawson-esque" Brendon. My heart!!!!

Can i fuck around with the pics you linked but maybe possibly steal some for my own fic set in the same time? I've already got the banner for mine made, and I'd LOVE to make you one because I'm a banner-whore as Soph has pointed out before... =D

*is very excited and possibly creepily exuberant*

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Date: 2009-05-04 12:23 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lolab.livejournal.com
\o/ YAY! i am quite excited.

jackdawson!bden is my favourite already. :DDDDDD

yeah, steal them all you want, it's not like i took them myself, ahahaha. i'm not even sure i want a banner yet, but i'm considering it. you're welcome to play around with whatever you want...

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Date: 2009-05-04 12:10 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] iamthearsonist.livejournal.com
*long time lurker*
I took harp for three years and it is practically impossible to teach yourself, lol.

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Date: 2009-05-04 12:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lolab.livejournal.com
hai!

FML, then. LOL. i'll figure something out, then. ;) maybe brendon knows how to play, somehow, b/c he knows how to play everything, and he teaches ryan, who had been trying to teach himself for years unsuccessfully.

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Date: 2009-05-04 12:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] justranda.livejournal.com
Thus far, I have nothing to say about your outline but more to comment on [livejournal.com profile] redorchids's lyrics: I want that in song form like burning. I seriously cried reading those lyrics and I want them written somewhere where I always see them, like on my wall, idek.

In unrelated news, I ♥ U. :D

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Date: 2009-05-04 12:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lolab.livejournal.com
I KNOW. DUDE. I KNOW. i'm considering writing music for it, but i feel like i wouldn't do it justice.

ily 2! :D

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Date: 2009-05-04 12:23 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
damn i rly wish i could read this fic bc i love your fics. but abuse/slave-fics really squick me D:

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Date: 2009-05-04 12:27 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lolab.livejournal.com
awww, i'm sorry. i don't think there are going to be a lot of explicitly violent scenes, mostly just implied stuff, so you may still be able to stomach it? the thing is, it's not *about* the abuse, or even slavery. it's about the psychological evolution of ryan's character. so, idk... :/

idk why my internet made that anon

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Date: 2009-05-04 01:00 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] j-plash.livejournal.com
To butt in; me too. The reason I've done so much research on slavefic is not because I like them, it's because I nearly always don't.

There should be very little explicit violence/abuse in this. Obviously the final decision on that is up to Colin, but I'm pretty sure we're on the same wavelength.

I believe very firmly that rape should never be written in fic as a turn on, as porn as such. I think that's fundamentally wrong (with a few exceptions, for very specific reasons exploring psychology of abuse etc). This won't be that kind of slavefic. Where what Ryan suffers is mentioned, it will be for the purpose of not trivialising it; of making clear how horrible these facts of rape and slavery are, how much they change everything.

We want to look at the way a person is hurt by these experiences, and then at the possibility of healing. This fic should, in the end, be somewhat uplifting.

So absolutely if you're squicked at all don't read it (always always always always), but just so everyone's clear, this isn't one of those rape-as-porn slavefics. Like Colin said, it's not about that. It's very much character driven rather than centred around sex as such, because Ryan's a victim here. Sex is not for the most part going to be something exciting and hot. Epic character driven AU, not porny slavefic. Y/y? ;D

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Date: 2009-05-04 12:47 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] monamour-x.livejournal.com
jack dawson-esque. -- and i'm sold (...ignore the fact that i would have been sold anyway lol).

i'll draw pictures, but i'd need to know scenes. which means i'd need to wait until you started writing, unless you have a clear visual now that you want to describe/want me to draw.

A NOVEL! A REAL NOVEL?!?!?! DUDE OMG YAY FOR YOU! *GRABS YOUR HANDS AND DANCES LAMELY WITH YOU* I'M SO GLAD BB <333

i think ryan should be publically humiliated at some point (dfsdkfjskdfds SO MEAN, I KNOW, BUT HEAR ME OUT). i just have this visual of him, just, laying on the floor, helpless and defeated, while a ton of people (...his master has just beaten him or something, maybe? and maybe he's naked? idk...the small details aren't...really. idk whatever) are around him and he's just. laying there. i have no idea how that would fit in with anything, but i just. see it. vaguely. cause...i mean, obviously, slaves get beaten. and...humiliated...and so i'm assuming a sex slave would. and it would kind of be twice as mortifying if he were naked, possibly just having 'been with' his master? or...something...okay, i'll shut up now. it's late and i'm tired. lol, explainations aren't going to be very good.

ryan playing the harp is awesome. the end.

i'm sleepy and this comment is all over the place. but i am very excited for this fic, bb!! dfksdjfksdjfdsdjfkdsf yay!!

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Date: 2009-05-04 12:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] notyourshot.livejournal.com
*comment lrking*

oh dude that'd be awesome. my visual is something like, um. have you seen that bruce willis movie that talks about human trafficking in eastern europe? well, anyway, there's this one scene where all these rich disgusting men are in this circular room with...cubicles sort of, with a tainted window: so they can see, but without being seen, right? and on the other side of the glass, women are being displayed and sold to the highest bidder. and, idk, i can totally see ryan in a room like that, whether its for sale or just putting up a show. idk! the images!

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Date: 2009-05-04 12:59 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] selectivelyurie.livejournal.com
the massive amount of epic just revealed in this has just caused my brain to implode D:

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Date: 2009-05-04 01:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lolab.livejournal.com
YAY. :D

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Date: 2009-05-04 01:21 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] j-plash.livejournal.com
1. Let's move our commentflailing/ficcing to this post, 'cause our threads on the other post are page-stretching and killing my screen :P

2. God, the extent to part of me wants to kill one of them in the end. Either Brendon, after all the way he's come, to die like a dog the night Jon's escape's planned (or in the escape maybe), and how that destroys Ryan--he's out, but Brendon had to die for it. How he lives for Brendon's sacrifice. OR Ryan, after all he's survived, to die in the escape, or after the escape, god, OMG yes he could die of an STD while they're on the run, that would be INORDINATELY DEPRESSING, the FUTILITY OF IT ALL *dies*. BUT, like you say, not in fic. I don't think we need to do that to anyone (or ourselves :P). Seriously though dude, if you end up novelising this, win. Much, much win. Though yeah, prob Brendon, 'cause god, that would be some Dostoyevsky-level depressingness if Ryan died anyway :S THOUGH, omg, you could cut straight from Ryan's death, Brendon clinging to his corpse, to a kind of reflective epilogue about whether he was better off trapped and alive, or dead and free, and, like...oh god, okay, stopping here, I'm trampling all over your ground :P I LOVE YOU, however ;D So much. You know how wild I am about this story ;D

3. More comments later. I really have to run to rehearsal, but definitely more comments later :)

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Date: 2009-05-04 01:42 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] notyourshot.livejournal.com
2. the history buff in me is flashing a red light at the STDs thing. unless you mean syphilis...but. anyway. DEATHS. NO. BADBADBAD. i agree, this would be so much epic win if this ends up being a novel. if ryan dies, it would be beyond dostoyevsky, it would be everyone having a fucking crisis because it would all have been so useless! like, sure, death freed him or whatever, but STILL. like, just, NO! because he was already free! sort of! DEATH, NO/MFN?

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Date: 2009-05-04 03:56 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fleurdelisee.livejournal.com
I am so excited about this :D

For the tattoo thing, I had replied to you on Twitter but my account was locked and blah blah I guess it didn't work or something.
So. In France, when a prostitute was being caught, they would tattoo/burn a fleur de lys (the crown's symbol) on her/his shoulder. But Brendon wouldn't know he has it... Or maybe he could know about all this, the burning/tattooing habit the French have and expect Ryan to have one because he knows what he's been forced into doing for the past years...?

And the offer still stands, if you need info on 19th century France, I will dig through my History notebooks and answer your questions.

Oh yeah, I had a question. We're you planning it to take place in the early 19th century or the late, around the Moulin Rouge time? Because if you had planned the late 19th century, I have other authors Ryan can fangirl over because they ~think like him about boys, like what I had suggested about Oscar Wilde.
Paul Verlaine and Arthur Rimbaud were a couple. It didn't last long, ended with two bullets in Rimbaud's wrist and Verlaine in jail, but they had, and I quote Wikipedia, "a short and torrid relation". Just saying.

Also, if you had decided to choose the second half of the century, it would make the brothel even more realistic because it's around that time that Paris became a place of debauchery, especially la Place Pigalle (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quartier_Pigalle) (where the Moulin Rouge actually is), a place where poets and artists would meet to drink absinthe, smoke opium and write weird poetry *coughs*Baudelaire*coughs*
So basically, the "Freedom, Beauty, Truth and Love" of Moulin Rouge began in the late 1800's, when symbolist writers pushed away the realist ones. *shuts up about literary movements*

Sorry if that was boring and useless. :/

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Date: 2009-05-04 06:05 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] j-plash.livejournal.com
I am 95% sure we're talking late 19thC, yeah.

Part of what Colin wants with the tattoo is for it to be something Ryan already had, because Brendon doesn't know he's been turned into this (and 8 years changes a lot about appearance at that age), so he needs some solid proof. So yeah, it needs to be sort of a done by hand, sentimental home thing more than a brand mark (there are other things happening in that line of discussion, big time :P). So the lily was coming more from there I think than the branded fleur de lys. It's a nice comparison, though.

I'd be interested to write some Ryan thinking about that, how it's been tarnished, how this beautiful, pure thing that was his memory of his mother, of goodness and safety and beauty and wonder and hope, has become just a slightly different version of the slave mark, how it's too close to the fleur de lys on the other slaves for it to ever be pure again. Hm. Maybe ;D

Thoughts :)

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Date: 2009-05-04 06:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] theirempires.livejournal.com
This is going to be more epic than any of your other epics. Reading about it just makes me more and more excited. Hah, and I've got all these images of Brendon and Ryan dressed in frilly outfits and business!Brendon strutting around.
So much yes to Jon and even more yes to spanishaccent!Shane that, just... UGH.
Ryan seems like he is going to be girly and fragile and submissive while trying so hard no to be that it hurts just a little. IDK my brain is thinking things.
CAN NOT WAIT FOR THIS FIC. [really want to draw some outfits for them]

p.s. - "even in death, i would find you" Oh, my heart<3

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Date: 2009-05-04 02:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lolab.livejournal.com
it really does feel more epic than anything else, and plus it's set in a time period that i know very little about. :/ so, i'm pretty intimidated. lol.

glad you are excited! and omg, draw whatever you want! i can give you descriptions if you want...

ah, i do love me some snazzy taglines. XD

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Date: 2009-05-04 06:31 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] j-plash.livejournal.com
Hey, so, comment of death coming up :P First, the tattoo/name/Lily stuff. With a few bits of super-mini-comment-fic :P Then titles XD

The lily. I love the lily tattoo. I love the connection to his mother. I love the idea I was just talking to Caro about of Ryan trying so hard to maintain the purity of the symbol in his mind, but it's so similar to the fleur de lys on the other slaves that slowly, unstoppably, it fades, tarnishes; this beautiful, pure thing that was his memory of his mother, of goodness and safety and beauty and wonder and hope, has become just a slightly different version of the slave mark, it's too close to the fleur de lys on the other slaves for it to ever be pure again.

So yeah, I like the lily, I think it makes sense, I think it's a beautiful image, I think it creates lots of awesome possibilities.

The name - I absolutely agree with him having a slave name, something with which to protect himself, something so that he can keep that centre, that tiny part of himself safe, closed away, because they'll never take his name. Giving him a girl's name automatically makes me cringe, but I can see why you're going there. Idk. I'm not sure *why* he'd use a girl's name. I'm also not sure why he'd make his slave name, this horrible thing, something he loves and feels strongly about. But. That just means I'm not looking at it the right way :P Idk. You're right that it needs to be something B will recognise. And that kinda means it has to be sentimental, I guess. Actually, yeah, ok...no, I think I'm with it now. YES YES YES YES YES. If it's something from the very beginning, right back in the start, right after he's taken - SO. Someone says to him (not in these words :P This is compressed :P) "you're new yeah? They're going to ask your name. Don't give them the real one. Keep the real one close. It'll get you through when you don't think you can hold on anymore. As long as they don't have your name, you'll never belong to them really." And sure enough, minutes later, they ask for a name, and Ryan blurts out the only thing he can think of, the thing that brings him comfort, the thing that makes him feel a tiny bit safer in this darkness. "Lily." He regrets it later. But he wasn't going to use his father's name, and...and there's no going back now.

OHMYGOD, okay, and early on, they don't care what his name is, it's just a label to go beside the price tag, but later, later in Paris, when he's strong, there are the ones who are interested. "You have an unusual name," they'll purr, self-satisfied, indulgent, sick and smelling of too much perfume.
And Ryan will smile shyly, and duck his head, and drag his heart through the mud. "It was my mother's."

AHHHHHHH. I love that now :P Lmao. K. The girls name thing still makes me cringe a little, but that doesn't matter :P And the image you painted around it is awesome :D And. AND THE ANGST. Guh. Sorry XD

K, so, now, titles. I've just made a whole list of lyrics that could work, most of which aren't really quite there, but hopefully it'll help with ideas. My taste in titles is also weird, so you may hate them all :P

The ones I really like:

The Only Light That You See

Forget About The Sunshine When It's Gone

The Direction I Follow To Get Home

Guide You In The Night

All These Things Into Transmission


Other Ideas:

The World Has Its Shine (awesome but overused)

Make My Way Home

Pour Yourself A Glass


I'll probably think of a million more :P I'll just keep going, lol ;D

Oh, and do tell me when you want me to stop writing commentfic, dude. 'Cause I'm just going to keep going as long as you're good with it :P

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Date: 2009-05-04 06:32 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] j-plash.livejournal.com
OMG I forgot to mention the tag line. You know I love you until like eternity and back, yeah? :) You kill me. So much yes. Love. Love. Love love love love love.

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Date: 2009-05-04 01:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] faerie-lullaby.livejournal.com
I so cannot wait for this fic. Everything you post about it just makes me more excited.

I had started that spyro watertower fic you had been asking for awhile back, but unfortunately it's not really going anywhere. And then I started a hs-best friend-first porn movie together-experimenting fic, and so far, it's turning out ok. Needs to be tweaked, but it's coming along.

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Date: 2009-05-04 02:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lolab.livejournal.com
YAY! i'm excited too, if a little (okay a lot) intimidated.

dude. DUUUUUUDE. GIVE ME!!!!! WANT!!! ANY SPYRO IS OKAY! WAAAAAAAAANT.

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Date: 2009-05-04 02:13 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] the-randomist.livejournal.com
218 ryan/spencer fics, courtesy of [livejournal.com profile] slashxmistress's epic Delicious account. :D



Totally and completely unrelated, but I am going to explode if I don't share this with someone.



HE'S LIKE, FIFTEEN. AND HE IS TINY AND ADORABLE AND APPARENTLY WAS THE LEAD SINGER IN HIS HIGH SCHOOL BAND. IDGAF IF THE CROWD WASN'T INTO IT, I COULD LISTEN TO BB!JON OR ANY JON SING ALL DAY LONG.

*explodes*

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Date: 2009-05-04 02:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lolab.livejournal.com
:D thanks, but i've probably read them all. (or all the ones i care to read; not a big AU fan.) I WANT SOME NEW MATERIAL, DAMN IT! :P

as4,havopiuaw3op4jawop34ipwoai paoit joaijgpaio rtpoia gpoiajpritap9 45p JONWALKER. JON. MOTHERFUCKING. WALKER. okay it's 2003 so he was like... 17? STILL. A;SLEKJPOAFAP3I!!!!!!!!!!!!!! HOW HAVE I NEVER SEEN THAT BEFORE ASELKJA;ILAPW3O4PA9W349AW8UF90A3

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Date: 2009-05-04 02:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] takkatakkatakka.livejournal.com
So perhaps during Ryan's gruelling first year of hell (etc etc), he meets someone who's already a slave (one William Beckett, perhaps, or maybe an OMC would work better) who kind of teaches him what the people in charge don't - like how to deal with the stress and little tricks for how to make stuff better for yourself and ways to get stuff over with quicker (similar to how they all help Violet Sanford in Coyote Ugly? tell me if that reference doesn't help, I'll elaborate) and he ends up as kind of a hard edged mentor?

so this could go two ways - a) he's the only person who's nice to Ryan for a year or so, Ryan finds comfort in him and things, and then he gets sold on or whatever and Ryan loses him, or b) he's also an asshole as well as helpful and maybe uses Ryan? or isn't that nice to him, and idk, takes Ryan's loaves at suppertime or steals a sketch he has of Brendon or something. um.


either way I guess the whole thing adds to the idea of Ryan toughening up, and either by losing this guy or being used by him, it makes Ryan angrier/bitterer/haughtier/hotter.

end random idea.

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Date: 2009-05-04 02:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lolab.livejournal.com
i like that a lot! not sure if i want to bring other bandom ppl into this tho (with a few exceptions, i tend to not like huge stories who incorporate like every band; to me it usually feels forced, and too much to keep track of). but, possibly just a william character could work... i like the idea of, possibly, this guy befriends ryan, seems nice at first, and then betrays him later to save himself or something.

damn, i kind of want a lisa rowe (girl interrupted) figure for him. XD crazy!beckett ftw.

aselrkjfjawp3 a sketch of brendon! MY HEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAART. yeah i think ryan should be a bit of an artist in this, in addition to music/writing.

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