ext_83771 ([identity profile] j-plash.livejournal.com) wrote in [personal profile] behindthec 2009-04-21 10:19 pm (UTC)

Long ramble below :P

Ok, see my worry is, if we have him being bought as a sex slave for Spencer's dad (*insert appropriate shudder*)...I'm not sure how we then get him with Spencer. Unless you have an idea? I just can't find the conversation in my head that would make it work. Unless...hm, actually, maybe I was just thinking in totally the wrong direction on Friday when I was thinking about it :D Like, what I was thinking was that for Spencer to keep the high ground, Ryan needs to be the one who starts it...I mean, Spencer can *want* him and try to hide it because he'd never go there and Ryan catches that look in his eyes one day and Spencer is mortified and panicky but Ryan doesn't stop thinking about it and at some point is all sort of 'I want to try. I want to...that's normal, right? I want to try to be normal'. BUT I could only see that working if Ryan wasn't having everything else happen anymore, if he was sort of going I'm safe now, Spencer swears no one's ever going to hurt him again, and he eventually gets to this place where he wants to try to salvage himself. BUT it could sort of come from a different, more screwed up direction, if there was the (*further shudder* :P) Spencer's dad thing, a more violent, warped, really unhealthy sort of reclaiming thing, make their relationship really screwed up...draw a slightly different trajectory for Ryan's character. Though I'm not sure how that could become a positive/loving sexual experience for him to remember later when Brendon reappears. Idk, ok, no, *wait*, actually, so it could start out that way, angry and with the beginnings of the shift into bitterness and strength, and with very little care for Spencer, almost using him; but Ryan's not there just yet with the hatred and the ice, and as he realises that Spencer really cares about him deeply, everything changes, his reasons change, he doesn't understand anything anymore, and he gets too attached, and the shell breaks, and the way he's opening up to Spencer despite himself opens himself up to everything else that's happening so that he just breaks completely. Sort of a third different character trajectory it could take.

Did any of that make sense? :P I quite like the last idea or something like it, just 'cause it does, as you say, avoid the cliche. What do you think?

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