behindthec: (brencer)
Colin ([personal profile] behindthec) wrote2009-03-31 07:37 am

525,600 minutes.

go read The way you make me feel (it knocks me off my feet) by [livejournal.com profile] siubhlach. unf.

also, here is the actual interview from the rywalk backrub gif that went viral last week. "we don't like drugs or girls." oh, jon walker, how are you real. speaking of this band's unrealness, ryan and spencer's twitters, oh fucking god. RYAN'S BUYING HIM SHORTS, YOU GUYS. BECAUSE HE KNOWS SPENCER'S SIZE AND WHAT KIND HE'D LIKE, AND. AND. YOU GUYS. i. just. ♥!! someone, please, right now, write me endless present-day fic about ryan and spencer realizing they have possibly been in love forever and are married. GO.

and now,

i honestly cannot decide what my next project is going to be. i want to write another standalone before i start something epic, as seems to be my usual now, just to shake things up, but i'm not... like, inspired for the peterick i was going to do. idk. and i have no other oneshot ideas. can anyone remember me saying i was going to do something? maybe that jonrad when jon left for panic. idk. i know i said i was going to write that epic billrad next, but... i'm just not obsessive over it at the moment. the story i always end up writing is the one i'm fangirling in my brain. it has to be that way; that's how they turn out as well as they do (er, i assume they do 'cause you tell me they do), because i think about it 24/7 and get all obsessed with it.

it was a tossup between blind!fic (ryden or gsf) and aids!fic ([livejournal.com profile] moku_youbi and i seem to share a passion for torturing brendon urie), but i honestly am leaning towards aids!fic. i'm still stuck on brendon/spencer for it, but all you ryden tinhatters have to promise me you'll read it anyway. ;) not to toot my own horn, but i've been told time and again i have a tendency to convert people to pairings they never would've liked or imagined. let's hope i've still got it. and it's so weird, because a few months ago i'd never have even considered brencer. they were the hardest for me to visualize until recently. just too much canon goodness in the past year between them to ignore. they seem to have grown up together, in toward each other, in some way. if that makes any sense. i'm trying to justify the way the band is currently in a rywalk/brencer split. it makes me sad. but yeah, i feel like spencer's a good choice. because he seems so strong, so he'd be what brendon needs... but i also really want to see him break down when brendon starts declining. I WANT TO SEE SPENCER SMITH CRY, OKAY. i want to see him crying and yelling about how he can't do this, but being too concerned to let himself break down in front of brendon so he goes outside on the deck and calls ryan on his cell and breaks down there, but brendon comes out and sees him anyway. i heard one exchange in my head where breakdowny!ryan was like, "i'm fucking losing him, spence," and spence snaps back, "we're ALL losing him, and some of us are in love with him." and brendon happens to walk in the room right at that moment (it's the first time spencer's admitted it to anyone). ;asj;fijao4rja;w3;aoio!!!!! this is seriously going to be the angstiest fic that ever angsted, oh god. falling in love with someone after you find out they're dying? jfc. and brendon trying to avoid it, trying to shoo spencer away, being all "DON'T LOVE ME, I'LL BE GONE SOON." only, with less cheesy lines.

i don't know; i have nothing concretely planned for this fic. throw out any ideas you have, anything that comes to mind. i have ryan as being very breakdowny, withdrawn and angry and just losing it a lot (i strongly feel ryan ross responds to loss of control with anger). i've visualized a scene where he and spence and jon accompany brendon when he tells his family he's got HIV. (to make it even worse, maybe he hasn't even come OUT to them yet, oh god. no, i couldn't do that.) ryan basically breaks down and can't do it, and bren's like, it's okay, it's okay, you can go, and jon goes after him, and so spence stays with brendon while he tells them. then there's also the issue of the media, how/when they decide to go public with it (early on, or by obligation after an on-stage breakdown?), and the stress of the industry's/fans' reactions. i have an image of one scene where brendon's starting to get worse, and he passes out one night on stage. i feel like the disease is going to progress pretty quickly with him (i mean, many people live years and sometimes decades with the virus; i can't cover all that here). i also remember very, very little about HIV/AIDS. i wrote rentfic back in the day but all i remember is... um... AZT. t-cells. low = bad, high = good. help me out? rent was set like, 20 yrs ago. there are advancements, i'm sure. spew random facts? give me something to start with? brainstorm with me, anything? is there anyone who knows a lot about the disease that would be willing to sort of be my point person while i'm writing? have me throw you scenes and ideas and be all, "is this realistic?" and ask other dumb questions?

other random images i had were of brendon refusing to go to support groups for awhile; angsting that no one will ever want him again, and spence not knowing how to say, "hey, dickface, i want you," afraid of rejection... i see spence coming home one day to find bden has like, terrorized the house, broken half his shit, his guitars. and once all the ~feelings come out later, i can see bden totally being all, fine, but we are NEVER having sex, too risky, etc. (of course, they eventually will, and spencer will tell ryan, and ryan will shitflip, etc.) also had the image of spence coming home one day to find brendon curled up on the couch with a blanket and watching RENT. and like, bawling. because brendon is totally going to have loads of pathetic moments in this, to counteract all the times he's strong and positive.

okay, so maybe i do have some concrete ideas for this. \o/

i am also vaaaaguely considering a spencer/ryan sequel... or possible spence/ryan/jon sequel. but i wouldn't want it be just misdirected bonding over bden's death (<--a phrase i never want to use again in my life, oh god). i want it to be more. and i want them to still be a band, but i know they couldn't be, and i don't know what i'd DO with them, what would i DO with them? would ryan finish college, teach music? or teach writing? work with pete? what would spence do, and jon? i'd need desperately to keep them together, but i'd want it to be realistic. idk. maybe no sequel. throw out thoughts for this too. oh, and i suppose i'll need a brencer icon for this. throw your favorite photos my way. (ETA: got one! so it has the same quote as my bilvy icon; who cares. it fits. ♥ thanks to [livejournal.com profile] the_randomist for the link to the picspam of epic epicness.)

oh, and seriously guys, five pages of comments on chapter 6? you make me feel so loved. thank you, ferrealz. ♥

in case you hadn't noticed, i'm taking a short break from pccf. 7 should be up hopefully next week, but i need a breather this week. no worries, it's all planned and outlined and part of a scene is written. it's just my professional and personal life are both under intense amounts of stress right now, and i just kind of need to. not commit to a damn thing for a few days. think about something else (aids!fic). thanks for understanding. on the upside, there is going to be a scene of one-on-one b-ball in the driveway. i haven't yet determined whether this is going to be inordinately faily, or one of those random boythings at which ryan happens to be awesome (like cars). either way, shirtless sweaty boys all up in each other's space, yo. \o/

also, [livejournal.com profile] takkatakkatakka came up with the best texting exchange ever (ever) in the last entry's comments:

in reply to who tops: your MOM tops
spencer's response: only with ryan

HEH. HEH HEH.


[identity profile] guilt-lines.livejournal.com 2009-03-31 12:10 pm (UTC)(link)
not fc tbh.

as you know, school has turned my brain into LIFE. HATE. and panic (and not the good kind). but this was a very nice distraction because I am now so, so excited for aids!fic. (torturing a Bden really is fun. what are we :/). and ANGST. and crying. and gah, it sounds so good. I especially like the 'random images' paragraph. For lacking in concrete ideas, this is fairly concrete lol. but you has insane outlines and stuff :P

can you imagine Brendon's FACE if Ryan somehow managed to make a perfect basketball shot or something? so I say random boything of awesome tbh.


[identity profile] melody-so-sweet.livejournal.com 2009-03-31 12:39 pm (UTC)(link)
I think you've earned my (and probably quite a few other people's) infinite fandom, so you know I'll read anything you put up, regardless of the pairing. XD

Gosh, Colin. If you write that, you'll make me cry. 100% guaranteed. D:

I think after such a great chapter, you deserve a break. XD

[identity profile] stereotypeloser.livejournal.com 2009-03-31 12:42 pm (UTC)(link)
If you're going to speed up the process of his death (D;) I'd suggest having him contract an infection that will, obviously, be fatal. That's pretty much what the cause would be. Either you die from the prolonged effects of AIDs, or you contract an infection (something like pneumonia, or a fungus infection or virus that affects that brain).
Um, there's one called Progressive Multifocal Leukoencephalopathy, which affects the brain and causes personality changes, loss of various bodily functions and is, obviously, progressive. The treatment, though, works for about 50% of patients.
Of course, you can have HIV for years and have no signs of AIDs. Are you gonna have Brendon been infected for some time and didn't tell anyone or some shit?

Anywho, I have a feeling this story will break me in the best way possible (somehow).
ily.

[identity profile] lolab.livejournal.com 2009-03-31 12:52 pm (UTC)(link)
SCHOOL IS EVIL. EVERYONE SHOULD DROP OUT.

(not really. stay in school kids.)

but YAY, i'm glad you're excited! you and i are going to have fun with this one. i'm sure you'll help me come up with all kinds of exciting angst for it i'd never even thought of. for one, i want spence to overhear ryan and brendon talking at one point, and ryan's saying, "i've kind of always been in love with you... i'm sorry i never..." but by the end of the conversation brendon is like, "well, i'm spencer's now." and spence is just ♥_♥

YES, I THINK RYAN IS GOING TO KICK ASS AT BASKETBALL. I'M NOT SURE THIS FITS IN WITH THE LAWS OF THE UNIVERSE, BUT. ASLKJESAFOA4P. HOTTTTTTTTT.

[identity profile] lolab.livejournal.com 2009-03-31 12:54 pm (UTC)(link)
awww, thank you! there will definitely be some rydeny moments too, so no worries. ;)

i think it's gonna make me cry too. idek if i'll have the emotional strength to write it. it'll be a much slower process than my usual writing.

<3 thanks bb.

[identity profile] lolab.livejournal.com 2009-03-31 01:01 pm (UTC)(link)
right. they say you usually don't die *from* AIDS, you die from getting a normal infection that turns bad b/c of the disease. though, i don't want him to just go around sick the whole time. i figure this'll probably cover a year, year and a half at most, from the time he finds out he's positive. BUT, it'll help that he's supposedly been positive for close to two years (he remembers the specific incident; a one-night-stand when the condom broke, though the guy had claimed he was clean, so bden never worried). so no, brendon wasn't keeping it from anyone; as soon as he gets tested and fins out, he tells everyone. (and ryan cries. a lot. :( )

god; i don't think i'd want to do the brain one. i want him to stay lucid and normal. i'm already torturing him enough. :(

thing is, i'm not sure i want to write the actual death. like, because then i'd have to write the funeral. and i don't know if i could. the fic will end either when he's really close, and he (and spence and the others) finally reach some kind of peace about it... or, it'll end right after the funeral, with spence and jon and ryan driving out to the desert to smoke up and blast their own albums from the car stereo; something simple like that. oh god. just thinking about that is making my eyes sting. fuck. i think i'll have to do that. :/

anyway, thanks for the info! i shall come to you again. AND BREAK YOU WITH THE ANGST.

<3

[identity profile] guilt-lines.livejournal.com 2009-03-31 01:02 pm (UTC)(link)
ON FRIDAY I SWEAR I AM NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO CHOOSE WHAT TO WRITE FIRST. jfc.

yes, yes we are. I already have one. you know how [livejournal.com profile] stereotypeloser said about Bden contracting an infection and that's what kills him. well, like, Ryan or someone (but come, Ryan, bc ANGST) should give it to him. Only they didn't know, and it obviously doesn't effect him that much, or maybe not as fast, but despite that Ryan's all NO, I MUST BLAME MYSELF. I HAS KILLED BRENDON. angst. and Spencer can get really pissed at Ryan for making it about him when, you know, Brendon's the one who's dying.
or something. idk if that's very logical, but I want it for the angst.

THIS: ryan's saying, "i've kind of always been in love with you... i'm sorry i never..." but by the end of the conversation brendon is like, "well, i'm spencer's now." and spence is just ♥_♥ - YES. EPIC YES.

I think it just has to like, balance out with the epic fail, some freaky random win also. hot indeed.


[identity profile] lolab.livejournal.com 2009-03-31 01:02 pm (UTC)(link)
*finds.

[identity profile] stereotypeloser.livejournal.com 2009-03-31 01:09 pm (UTC)(link)
Then give him, like, pneumonia, man. Although it'd make singing hard, so maybe that's why he passes out on stage? It just gets, like, too hard or something and he kind of forgets to breathe? Maybe he can have like a normal cold for some time, and it finally gets ridiculous when he passes out, and then he goes to the hospital and they tell him he has pneumonia or something. So then... he won't be sick the whole time, apart from a 'normal' cold?

Funerals are like the hardest to write, I find, but you would do it so well, I know you would. You write with enough emotion to get everyone through a funeral so that it will feel completely real. (Which is usually good, but will probably break everyone haha).

do it. i can totally handle the angst.

[identity profile] ivesia19.livejournal.com 2009-03-31 01:09 pm (UTC)(link)
but i've been told time and again i have a tendency to convert people to pairings they never would've liked or imagined
....yeah, well, I think I'm a hopeless case, really I do, but I'll still love you, even if you write about things that defy The Truth. But I won't be able to make myself read anything buy ryden because a part of me will die.

And you know what? Maybe I'll make it my mission for you to narrow down your otp choice!
Oh, just wait til our concert, there'll be an epic conversion!

[identity profile] lolab.livejournal.com 2009-03-31 01:12 pm (UTC)(link)
YAY FRIDAY!!! i think i'm gonna be taking this friday off. \o/

OH, GOD, YES. i am all about maximizing ryan's angst in this! YES. he gives brendon a virus early on, not the one that kills him (that would just be too much), and then it sort of sets off his breakdowns, and YES, i LOVE that, about spencer being all stop making this about yourself asshole. GAHHHHHHHH!!!! <3333333 you are gonna be my right hand man for this (as you tend to be for everything ;).

<33333

[identity profile] guilt-lines.livejournal.com 2009-03-31 01:13 pm (UTC)(link)
awesome! \o/

haha yeah, killing him would maybe be too much lol. *got carried away* but yes. hee. and of course, if you'll have me ;)

<33333

[identity profile] lolab.livejournal.com 2009-03-31 01:15 pm (UTC)(link)
gahhhhhhhhhh. yes. exactly. and, and maybe he's been trying to convince his band it's fine, it's just a cold, i'm fine, b/c he doesn't want to worry them... but it turns out it's pneumonia. :'(

GAH. THIS IS MAKING ME WANT TO DIE IN BEAUTIFUL WAYS.

thanks for the confidence, bb. <3

[identity profile] lolab.livejournal.com 2009-03-31 01:17 pm (UTC)(link)
LOL! there will be no narrowing of my otp! i don't HAVE an otp. what makes fandom interesting for me is the possibility of all these different alternate possibilities of falling in love. i don't think there's one right person for everyone. i think we've all got at least seven soulmates.

well, you will be missing out on all the angst, and all the rydeny subtext i'm going to include, then. :P

[identity profile] ivesia19.livejournal.com 2009-03-31 01:20 pm (UTC)(link)
Ryden subtext, you say?
...Could it become....text?
You know, I can do gsf! As long as there is enough ryden :D

[identity profile] lolab.livejournal.com 2009-03-31 01:27 pm (UTC)(link)
gsf is a start! :D

it cannot be text, but SUBTEXT. come on. and ryan BREAKING DOWN, and unable to stop hugging brendon, like ALL THE TIME. making up for 7 years (this is future-set) of shying away from brendon's affections! ;lask4jpoasfjpaw3ij4pawio4.

[identity profile] stereotypeloser.livejournal.com 2009-03-31 01:27 pm (UTC)(link)
awwwwww and brendon would be all selfless and trying to protect the others AND WE WILL ALL CRY FOR HIM. true story.
yeah, i def need this fic. BUT i think you should also... show the strong side of people who have AIDs, as well as their weaknesses. A lot them go through depression, or get really angry. But a lot of them also become stronger because of it (well, their will becomes stronger, anyway) and maybe Brendon goes through all of that, but comes out strong in the end.

For the media thing, I think you should look up any famous person who's ever contracted HIV and it was made public. Because then you can see what the media ACTUALLY said about it, and it might help you with the story, in terms of realism/understanding what the world's reaction would be. (ex: Freddie Mercury, who actually did die from pneumonia.)

[identity profile] selectivelyurie.livejournal.com 2009-03-31 01:29 pm (UTC)(link)
so should we start diving our graves now? because I AM DYING BECAUSE OF RYAN AND SPENCER! I KNEW THEY COULDN'T RESIST TWEETING EACH OTHER AND OF ALL THINGS TO TWEET ABOUT, IT'S CLOTHES! AFJIO';KLJ4I8O'CM COLIN WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO ABOUT THOSE BOYS? (also, omg i laughed so hard at ryan following yoko ono)

i'm glad you're taking time for a breather, bb. i seriously don't see how you turn out epic chapters for us each week so taking a week off is no biggie :) and omg, even though i swear my ryden tinhat is permanently attached to my head, your brencer sounds amazing D: i just. brendon dying is absolutely terrifying to think about, period. but losing him to AIDS is completely different and i fucking hate you for almost making me cry in a rough summary ;__; okay, not really because it's beautiful and i think you've got some really strong ideas for it. i think i'll find a way to remove my tinhat for this (you're lucky ily) :D

as for standalone ideas, i should be one of the main people that could offer you help, considering that's all i write. i'd love to write epic stories like yourself, but i haven't gotten a firm idea yet :\ quick, you jump in my brain, i'll jump in yours and bet we'll find something :)

om nom nom basketball! i have no idea why, but on Live in Chicago, when they played a short snippet of them playing b-ball in In The Days, i watched it like 5 times. seriously, i think that's one of the most masculine things i've ever seen them do (even if ryan was in dress pants and a jacket XD). you could totally watch that 2 second clip for inspiration if you'd like though. or go look at those old pictures of ryan, spencer and brendon at their little slumber party (you know, back when ryan had acne and brendon was still innocent?) and drool over ryan in basketball shorts :)

<333

[identity profile] ivesia19.livejournal.com 2009-03-31 01:32 pm (UTC)(link)
You're just reminding me how perfect ryden is!
With all the angst and tentative affection of ryan's part, because we all know that he really does love Brendon. And the LOVE!

(...It really is quite appalling how loyal I am to this silly pairing)

[identity profile] lolab.livejournal.com 2009-03-31 01:33 pm (UTC)(link)
LS;AKERJHOPIFJPAW I KNOW. I KNOWWWWWWWWWWW. ALSO I LOVE OUR ALL-CAPS DISCUSSIONS TBH.

ah, i wish i could write more oneshots. if i had some good ideas that sparked with me, i might... idk.

YES. RYAN FAILS IN HIS DRESS PANTS. but in this, he is totally going to be shirtless and wearing REALBOY JEANS. which hang LOW ON HIS HIPS. and. ;lsekpaoisfpoaiw3j4poaiw4. oh, and he's GOING to sweat this time, even though ryan never sweats. basketball with brendon would make anyone sweat, oh god.

SLUMBER PARTY PICS. <33333333333333

*shiver*

[identity profile] lolab.livejournal.com 2009-03-31 01:34 pm (UTC)(link)
he does love brendon. he confesses it at one point in aidsfic too. ;)

(it is. luckily i love you. XD)

[identity profile] selectivelyurie.livejournal.com 2009-03-31 01:47 pm (UTC)(link)
OUR ALL CAPS DISCUSSIONS ARE EPIC AND WONDERFUL AND I LOVE THEM TOO JIKL;JW38P;XCVNAS

oneshots are sometimes the hardest things to write for me. (way back when i wasn't in the panic fandom) i wrote chaptered stories and things sometimes went easier because i had as much time as i wanted to say what i wanted. oneshots are difficult because you've got to make your point quickly but effectively. idk, i know how hard it gets sometimes. what about another five times s/a? or you could just get the slightest inkling of what you'd like to write and then just let it grow from there...

RYAN FAILS NO MATTER WHAT HE WEARS (which, apparently, includes indian costumes with shane? omg that mental image ahaha) BUT JEANS! LOWWWW JEANS! ERA8J;KL and i can just imagine brendon making fun of ryan's paleness and how he hardly sweats (because he's obviously a girl) and then offering to *share* some of his own and them wrestling on the ground and giggling and adfujio;kljasdf

i should stop before i implode.

:D

[identity profile] miarae.livejournal.com 2009-03-31 02:13 pm (UTC)(link)
omfg aidsfic. WANT. And I totally see Spencer doing something with that after Brendons death. Like. I don't know. Giving speeches and teaching kids about safe sex. And them doing charity and shows to raise money for aids patients. AND ONE SHOULD SO NOT BE EXCITED ABOUT MAKING BDEN SUFFER. And I am. I blame you. So. Yes. *clears throat* aids!fic yay, that's pretty much all I have to say.

[identity profile] lolab.livejournal.com 2009-03-31 02:20 pm (UTC)(link)
YAY.

you're right; you have to make your point quickly, and that's always hard for me. my biggest problem as a writer is concision. i write visually, cinematically, so my goal is to get the readers to see what i see, as vividly as i see it. so that always ends up making for really long, wordy stuff.

i'd like a fluffy oneshot before i start aidsfic though. i'll need it. lol.

BAHAHAHAH. RYAN AND SHANE'S TWITTERS, OH GOD. ryan is jealous of brendon and his boyfriends, so he wants in on it.

WANT WRESTLING. GUH.

[identity profile] lolab.livejournal.com 2009-03-31 02:23 pm (UTC)(link)
YAY! want also! dude, yeah, i can see that. or he could start a whole record label with jon or something in bden's memory, where part of all the proceeds go to AIDS research. and ryan could be the pwentz and recruit the bands. DECAYDANCE: THE NEXT GENERATION.

oh wow, now i want to sit around all day and think of the awesome name they're going to give their label. something from brendon's lyrics. which he's going to write more of in the fic (maybe i can get [livejournal.com profile] redorchids to write me some more). so maybe i won't know until the end.

\o/

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